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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 20 @ 8:34 AM ET
GARTH: Star Money For Kadri?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Aug 20 @ 8:39 AM ET
No,kadri doesn't deserve star money or even second line money by Toronto standards.although if I'm kadri i see what bozak who should be on a second or third line is getting and I want that much myself.

Personally,i wouldn't be surprised if the nhlpa wasn't putting pressure on him, Hodgson and otherrfa players to hold out to raise the bar on rfa contracts.they probably don't like the idea of bridge deals.
Khlvalchuk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.08.2013

Aug 20 @ 8:43 AM ET
By how many points did Kadri outscore the guys mentioned 2 years ago? How about 3 years ago? If the author of that article is saying kadri deserves 5+ million solely on the fact that he had 44 points last year then that's a joke.

Take a 'bridge' contract around 6-8M for 2 years and if you put up .92 PPG then you'll be worth 6M+.

Kid needs to check his ego at the door.
kcNYI
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 08.19.2010

Aug 20 @ 8:49 AM ET
Kadri should get $7M over 2 years - kinda star money, kinda prove it deal.

Then he's still a RFA and can prove he should be making $5M+ per year.
SENSpatriot
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.02.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:50 AM ET
GARTH: Star Money For Kadri?
- garth


9M two years. That way next negociation will go smoothly
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Aug 20 @ 8:53 AM ET
Garth is the new Maple Leafs Blogger!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 8:56 AM ET
So basically, he's a step behind Jonathan Cheechoo's numbers as of their third year in the NHL?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:07 AM ET
please do yourself a favor.

dont write about the leafs, or kadri, or anything in Ontario.

unless of course you want to pull a Cloutier...then by all means.
SensHero
Joined: 09.10.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:09 AM ET
9M two years. That way next negociation will go smoothly
- SENSpatriot


Give him 5 x 5, as a Sens fan that would make me happy.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:11 AM ET
Give him 5 x 5, as a Sens fan that would make me happy.
- SensHero


same here, he will be worth 5+ after this year.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 20 @ 9:15 AM ET
GARTH: Star Money For Kadri?
- garth

Sabres blogger?


Ooops wrong thread
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:15 AM ET
your first mistake was reading anything written by Captain Irrelevant.
That can be said about most of the wienerhead writers in Toronto, but Simmons definitely challenges for title of the worst writer and the most irrelevant P.O.S out there.
do yourself a favor and after you get to the part where it says By: Steve Simmons, which just happens to be right after the title, keep moving as there is nothing to see or read below it.

kovey27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cornwall, ON
Joined: 06.07.2013

Aug 20 @ 9:16 AM ET
By how many points did Kadri outscore the guys mentioned 2 years ago? How about 3 years ago? If the author of that article is saying kadri deserves 5+ million solely on the fact that he had 44 points last year then that's a joke.

Take a 'bridge' contract around 6-8M for 2 years and if you put up .92 PPG then you'll be worth 6M+.

Kid needs to check his ego at the door.

- Khlvalchuk

exactly, you have to earn a long-term deal, not just play one good season. Gm's don't mind paying for something when they know its right. after ELC and you haven't proven anything yet, it's always a bridge deal then long term or trade. smart gms use that system
kovey27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cornwall, ON
Joined: 06.07.2013

Aug 20 @ 9:17 AM ET
as for hodgson goes, he's not worth much right now, hasn't proven anything. the kid will get 1st line mins this year and a great chance to make a heavy long term deal, but he has to earn it
kcNYI
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 08.19.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:22 AM ET
Would Leaf fans take Calvin deHaan and NYI 2014 2nd round pick for Cody Franson?

At the rate Nazem Kadri will get, the NYI will take Franson off your hands.
anthj99
Joined: 06.21.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
I hope the Sabres re-sign Kadri.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
exactly, you have to earn a long-term deal, not just play one good season. Gm's don't mind paying for something when they know its right. after ELC and you haven't proven anything yet, it's always a bridge deal then long term or trade. smart gms use that system
- kovey27


Again, his numbers for his third (full-time) NHL season are behind Jonathan Cheechoo's. Would you want to give Cheechoo a long-term, big $$ deal?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:36 AM ET
Would Leaf fans take Calvin deHaan and NYI 2014 2nd round pick for Cody Franson?

At the rate Nazem Kadri will get, the NYI will take Franson off your hands.

- kcNYI


No thanks
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 20 @ 9:44 AM ET
as for hodgson goes, he's not worth much right now, hasn't proven anything. the kid will get 1st line mins this year and a great chance to make a heavy long term deal, but he has to earn it
- kovey27


With the ridiculous money some of the UFA forwards got this year, it should not be difficult to understand why these two players think they are worth more then the bridge contract everyone is offering.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:54 AM ET
With the ridiculous money some of the UFA forwards got this year, it should not be difficult to understand why these two players think they are worth more then the bridge contract everyone is offering.
- kingcong39

in kadri's case it doesnt matter what he thinks, based on leaf cap space, he either signs for close to what Nonis is offering or he doesn't play, it's pretty much that simple.
Hodgson has a little more leverage for 2 reasons, the sabres have 10million in cap space and he is the #1 centre, so who knows how he'll approach it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 20 @ 10:04 AM ET
in kadri's case it doesnt matter what he thinks, based on leaf cap space, he either signs for close to what Nonis is offering or he doesn't play, it's pretty much that simple.
Hodgson has a little more leverage for 2 reasons, the sabres have 10million in cap space and he is the #1 centre, so who knows how he'll approach it.

- Rockhead_37


This leads to another question: would you rather overpay your own good players or another teams player that you haven't seen all their warts because you don't watch all of their games?
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
in kadri's case it doesnt matter what he thinks, based on leaf cap space, he either signs for close to what Nonis is offering or he doesn't play, it's pretty much that simple.
Hodgson has a little more leverage for 2 reasons, the sabres have 10million in cap space and he is the #1 centre, so who knows how he'll approach it.

- Rockhead_37

Sits out the year and walks for nothing next year. Leafs already have no talent at center, can't let kadri go over a few dollars.
kovey27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cornwall, ON
Joined: 06.07.2013

Aug 20 @ 10:31 AM ET
With the ridiculous money some of the UFA forwards got this year, it should not be difficult to understand why these two players think they are worth more then the bridge contract everyone is offering.
- kingcong39

for sure, I don't blame the players for listening to their agent. they likely can get a stupid deal, if I was a player I would do the same
kovey27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cornwall, ON
Joined: 06.07.2013

Aug 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Again, his numbers for his third (full-time) NHL season are behind Jonathan Cheechoo's. Would you want to give Cheechoo a long-term, big $$ deal?
- jmatchett383

if you read what I wrote, I would refuse to give kadri a long term deal right now. a bridge deal is fair. you need atleast 3 years of consistency before a long term. not sure why you mentioned cheechoo, him and kadri are completely different players
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 20 @ 10:42 AM ET
for sure, I don't blame the players for listening to their agent. they likely can get a stupid deal, if I was a player I would do the same
- kovey27


Exactly, and the problem is teams are giving out ridiculous deals with both term and dollars to young players that have not proven they are worth it yet, almost like they are making the deal on hunches and hopes, expecting the player to continue progressing when we all know it does not happen even close to all the time.

A team can play hardball with a certain player in that situation, but it will likely only end up hurting that team in the long run as we all know another team will have no problem giving that player a bloated deal.
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